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Seminar Run-Down - Barb Rogers and Elizabeth Engstrom

Like Ramsland and Holder, both Rogers and Engstrom also deal with the darker side of the human psyche.  When questioned about the black undertone of her writing, Engstrom answered, "I think if you don't have light, you don't have dark, and I have come to discover that it's just part of how I express myself."

"I write out all my demons for everybody else's enjoyment." Engstrom said.  "And they pay me for it!"

"Finally after 35 years of chaos and tragedy...I wanted people to know that if I can do this, so can you," Rogers added.  "It's my way of giving back something...to people."

As good of writers as these ladies are, they fully admitted they still struggle with some techniques of fiction.  (Thank goodness; now the rest of us aspiring writers don't have to feel so bad!)

"I'm always setting myself up to do something I don't think I have the skills to accomplish," admitted Engstrom.  "A lot of it is a mind game.  I struggle all the time with the committee in my head."

I think just about every writer on the planet can understand that one.

For this seminar, Don wanted to focus on how to construct what we write to get "maximum effect".  While this topic is interesting with two similar writers, it's downright fascinating when you have two such different women as these.  Barb Rogers focuses on self-improvement books, while Elizabeth Engstrom delves both into fiction and non-fiction.  But both are seeped in the techniques of telling a good story.

"When I'm writing fiction, I know the ending first, I know where I'm going," explained Engstrom.  "When I'm writing non-fiction...I have a point to make...so that's the general direction that I'm going to."

Don brought up the interesting point that when you want to have effectiveness you have to concentrate on the effectiveness, not on emotion.  And with Rogers particular background and what she writes about now, it's sometimes hard to do.

"Getting objective in non-fiction is really important," Roberts stated.  "It's different for everybody, so there comes a time where you have to step back...from your own experience and keep an objective so that everybody can understand in their own lives."

Next newsletter, we'll bring you the seminar run-down for our March 28th chat with women fiction writers Sheila Roberts and Debbie Macomber!